Spong is perhaps the most rational believer I know of.
Mad Sweeney
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Spong: "Why We Must Reclaim The Bible From Fundamentalists"
by leavingwt injohn shelby spong, the retired american bishop, has written a new book.
his article, below, briefly explains the purpose of his new book.
why we must reclaim the bible from fundamentalists.
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What Is Happening To KH Trustees In UK? Tranfering 'Deeds' To IBSA
by BroMac inhad a phone call with an elder friend this week.. and he mentions that they passed a resolution at their meeting this week which involves changing the legal 'ownership' of the 'deeds' of the kh and transfering it to wts/ibsa in the uk.. this 'new arrangement' comes direct from wt hq apparently.
he goes on to say how it passed the approval of the congregation and then laughingly said how1 brother was not in favour of the resolution.. he said: "you always get one don't you?
this was all news to me, as far as i know we have not had this happen here.. what do you guys think?.
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Mad Sweeney
Your understanding is correct, BroMac.
This is a relatively new phenomenon in the USA. Kingdom Halls used to belong to the local congregation. They still do. The difference is that over the past 12-15 years or so the Watchtower has "encouraged" congregation trustees to amend their bylaws/articles of incorporation to name the Watchtower Society as the owners of the real estate and other material property should the congregation dissolve.
Who decides when a congregation dissolves? The Borg.
So who REALLY owns your Kingdom Hall?
You can see this if your state's record-keeping system has converted its records to pdf's available to the public. You can look at original articles of incorporation for your congregation (from the 1970s for example), and subsequent amendments.
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Gilead School Changes to be read to all Congregations
by bnybyt inas of this week, and to be read from a letter to all congregations to coincide with the part on wt education at the service meeting, the announcement will be made that the gilead school will no longer be open to pioneer couples, rather it will become a specialized training school for special pioneers, traveling overseers and their wives, and those the governing body deems worthy of attending.
the gilead school has, since it's beginning, always been held in high esteem by the r&f, and seen as a summit to reach for service minded young jw couples.. could the recent dissentions by 2 gilead graduates who are actively promoting apostate ideas be influencing changes at how the gb sees the role of the gilead school and felt the need to shine this noo-light on its "educational" program?.
seems like another cemented pillar of the wt religion is crumbling as the new gb 2.0 tries to keep the ceiling from coming down.. maybe kool-aid man can devote a conference call to this subject ;-) .
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Mad Sweeney
They don't need Gilead for pioneer couples anymore because they have set up another "special" "school" for couples. I am thinking "graduates" of that school, unlike Gilead missionaries, will not be a financial burden on the Borg because they won't be missionaries. They'll just be told where to go live and left pretty much on their own to earn their own living. (I'm speculating and would like to see some evidence - BorgLit about both the Gilead changes and the couples school.)
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TOMORROW on Cult Free Radio! - JWFACTS.COM's Paul Grundy
by Mad Sweeney inyeah man!
how does cfr follow up barbara anderson?
with paul grundy, the creator of jwfacts.com.
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Mad Sweeney
Yeah man! How does CFR follow up Barbara Anderson? With Paul Grundy, the creator of jwfacts.com
Please join us tomorrow, Saturday, October 29, 2011 at 10pm Eastern Time for a discussion of jwfacts and Paul Grundy.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cult-free-radio
https://www.facebook.com/CultFreeRadio
MP3 archive of past shows:
http://ex-jw.com/web-directory/cult-free-radio-archives-1-6
Youtube Channel: MadSweeney1914
Sorry I haven't gotten caught up on the youtubes. It is a major pain to convert the ustream shows into 10-minute youtube segments, and I give priority to the .mp3 archive. I'll get caught up as I can. Thanks for your patience.
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Halloween is Sunday.......Share your paranormal experiences with the board
by Judge Dread income on.....................don't be shy......................and do not fear ridicule.. jdw .
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Mad Sweeney
Sweet. Did you call it "The Great Pumpkin"?
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Halloween is Sunday.......Share your paranormal experiences with the board
by Judge Dread income on.....................don't be shy......................and do not fear ridicule.. jdw .
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Mad Sweeney
BTW, my wife and daughter are practically obsessed with the paranormal. Any time something isn't where they left it they give everyone else the third degree to find out whether we moved it or whether it may have been moved by ghosts.
"Did you close the bathroom door last night?"
"How the hell should I remember that?"
"I KNOW I left it ajar but this morning when I got up it was closed. Did you close it?"
"I told you, I don't remember. I probably closed it after I went to the bathroom, yeah."
"If you didn't I think a ghost did."
"Oh Jesus Christ. *facepalm*"
I go through something like that several times a week. Could be something fell off a shelf, a book that was upright is now laying flat, iPod was on this table and now it's on that one, a shadow moved across the room. The answer is always spirits. It's never gravity, you moved your ipod and forgot, a car drove by and its lights and the bushes outside cast a shadow, no. It's spirits.
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Halloween is Sunday.......Share your paranormal experiences with the board
by Judge Dread income on.....................don't be shy......................and do not fear ridicule.. jdw .
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Mad Sweeney
A spirit told me not to bother posting that Halloween is Monday because two jaunty gentlemen with great cars already did so.
Or maybe it was just gas. I'm not sure.
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Out Of All JW Beliefs Which Is The Weirdest?
by minimus ini know there's plenty.. one that comes to mind is the blood doctrine.
whole blood is bad, blood fractions may be ok but not all.....wtf?
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Mad Sweeney
"Independent Thinking" is a sin.
"it does not belong to man who is walking to direct his steps."
WTF? Bad enough they deny us freedom of thought, they also want to control our movements as well.
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Why should we be asked to be born again?
by mankkeli inin the first case, it wasn't our choice to be born, so why should we be asked to be born again?.
why can't "god" figure that out himself.
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Mad Sweeney
It's all a metaphor. Just like God himself.
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Ray Franz.....LIAR?
by integ inone of my witness family members agreed to take a look at crisis of conscience, and after.
perusing the first couple of chapters, said that she thought it could be all made up.
agreed that the documents presented could be legitimate, but as far as franz's personal.
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Mad Sweeney
Welcome iCeltic. It certainly is an eye-opener. It makes one sick to see behind the curtain the wizard is nothing but a group of paranoid and deluded old men.